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THE INTERNATIONAL DEMS BULLETIN DUKE ELLINGTON MUSIC SOCIETY 07/3 December 2007 - March 2008 FOUNDER: BENNY AASLAND |
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DISCUSSIONS - ADDITIONS - CORRECTIONS
Newport 3Jul58
DEMS 07/3-21
See DEMS 07/1-44
In all the enthusiasm recently expressed about this
album [Mosaic MCD
1014], has no one noticed the deliberate mistake made
by Mosaic
(except I understand it wasn't deliberate and they are
embarrassed by
it).
They show the trumpet section as containing Cat
Anderson, Clark
Terry, Shorty Baker and Ray Nance plus Cootie
Williams! According to
Timner, it was Francis (France) Williams who filled
this role at
Newport - not on the studio session - and he notes
Bill Graham as a
sixth reedman on the studio date. Why was Graham there
- did he
replace Hodges on some tracks - if so, which?
Certainly not in
Multicolored Blue...
Brian Priestley
Are you sure it was Francis
Williams? Jimmy
Maxwell told me that he subbed at the last minute at
Newport in 1956,
but it turned out (when we saw a picture) that it was
someone else.
So maybe it was him in 1958. It was definitely him one
year.
David Berger
I am just repeating what Timner's
4th edition
says, so you could possibly be right. I do not suppose
there are many
people around now who would remember for sure.
Brian Priestley
The New DESOR for 3Jul58 Newport,
DE5824a-r,
shows Francis Williams, Shorty Baker, Ray Nance, Clark
Terry and Cat
Anderson in the trumpet section.
For 21Jul58 Studio session, DE5826a-i, Francis
Williams is listed as
out and Bill Graham (as) is shown as "added" to the
section which of
course consisted of the usual 5 reed players. Thus,
Graham may not
have replaced anyone, but simply been added to the
section sound?
Another thing, I see where Mosaic lists the session as
being "Mono",
but to my ears, from the original LP CS 8072, even
excluding the
added applause, the sound of the orchestra definitely
is in stereo.
Can anyone who has the Mosaic set say whether it is
mono or
stereo?
Bill Morton
The notes to the Mosaic explain
they couldn't use
the stereo masters of the studio set, because they'd
had the endings
(and openings) chopped up on tape to accommodate the
fake applause.
Therefore, they went with the mono masters, which had
not been
mutilated, as the only way of presenting the studio
session without
the added intrusions.
Brian Priestley
There can be no doubt about
Francis Williams
being in the band as fifth trumpeter in the 1958
Newport concerts.
1. Giovanni Volonté wrote in a letter of
31Jan93: "A word
about the 18Jul58 concert: we believe, as you do, that
Oscar
Pettiford is present during the whole concert; on the
contrary, the
presence of Francis Williams is not confirmed neither
in this
concert, nor in the studio three days later: we
maintain this soloist
only on the 3Jul58 Newport concert, because Francis
Williams himself
claimed his presence at Newport on 3Jul58, as he told
us."
2. Francis Williams is in the text of Duke's Diary by
Ken Vail Volume
2 on page 122, and on page 123 clearly visible as
fifth
trumpet-player in a photograph of the band on stage,
playing El
Gato.
3. The double CD Columbia C2K-53584 has on track 1
Willis Conover
introducing the musicians and mentioning in the
trumpet section from
left to right: Clark Terry, Shorty Baker, Cat
Anderson, Francis
Williams and Ray Nance.
There is something odd about the start of this double
CD.
On track 2 is the full Take the "A" Train,
almost a complete
chorus of 28 bars, anyway longer than the 16 bars on
the LPs CBS
65113 (Stereo) and Philips B 07367 L (Mono). It is
strange that after
that signature tune Duke thanked Mitch Miller for his
announcement,
causing the author of the liner-notes for the double
CD (John
Ephland) to observe in his notes, written in Match
1994, apparently
for Down Beat: "and [Duke] operating with his tongue
firmly in cheek
(listen, after his being introduced, to his calling
emcee Willis
Conover "Mitch Miller", ....).." (page 6 right
column).
What happened? Prior to the concert, which not started
with
Princess Blue as claimed by John Ephland (page
9 at the end of
the left column,), there was a radio performance by
the Ellington
orchestra (including Princess Blue and
Duke's Place
according to the text on the backside of the double CD
box) followed
by the Dave Brubeck quartet. This broadcast, an audio
copy of which
is in the DEMS collection, starts with Mitch Miller
announcing "Duke
Ellington and his famous orchestra playing his theme
and Newport
Up." Mitch Miller said at bar 14 of the first and
only chorus of
Take the "A" Train something like "O.K.
Duke?..Newport Up?". Duke said at bar 21 "Thank
you
very much, Mitch Miller..." Duke and Mitch must have
used
different mikes, because the recording on the double
CD has Duke's
word of thanks but not the announcement and the remark
made by Mitch
Miller. The recording of the music is identical.
Duke announced Princess Blue and after the
performance of that
number, the broadcast continued with Mitch Miller
mentioning the
title Princess Blue and announcing a certain
Michael Lemon,
former New York editor of Down Beat, who narrated a
commercial titled
"Notes on Jazz", promoting Virginia Dair Wine, red,
white or pink,
which was claimed to enhance your pleasure when
listening to Jazz.
See also DEMS 06/2-28. I believe it was the same
Michael who
continued after the commercial with: "For more Jazz
from the
festival, back to the stage and Mitch Miller." Mitch
Miller made a
long speech resulting in the announcement of Duke's
Place.
After the performance of that number Mitch announced
again Michael
Lemon for another "Notes on Jazz". Here the audio
recording of the
broadcast is interrupted. What follows is the
announcement by Mitch
Miller of the appearance of Dave Brubeck. This is also
aborted and
our tape continues with the announcement by Mitch
Miller of a group
of eight former Ellington sidemen, during which the
first selection,
East St. Louis Toodle-O is already playing.
Mitch announced
that number as East St. Louis and announced at
the same time
the following number Rockin' in Rhythm. After
Rockin' in
Rhythm Mitch announced another "Jazz Notes" by
Michael Lemon,
also skipped from our tape, continuing with the
announcement of
New Concerto for Cootie, after which Mitch
announced Jeep
Is Jumpin'. This selection is not on our tape. Our
tape continues
with the announcement of C-Jam Blues, not by
Mitch Miller but
by Rex Stewart (and not by Oscar Pettiford). At the
end of C-Jam
Blues, Mitch Miller announced the next one-hour
broadcast,
"tomorrow". During the announcements by Mitch the
names were
mentioned of the eight musicians: Rex Stewart, Cootie
Williams, Tyree
Glenn, Hilton Jefferson, Ben Webster, Billy Strayhorn,
Oscar
Pettiford and Sonny Greer. These names were confirmed
by Willis
Conover who apparently not only emceed the Ellington
concert that
evening but also the performance of the Ellington
alumni earlier in
the day. The Conover introduction of the alumni
concert came with a
more complete copy of their stage performance that was
generously
given to DEMS by Hans-Joachim Schmidt.
In the short Ellington performance (theme and two
selections) used
for the broadcast as well as in the recording of the
concert by the
Ellington alumni, from which only the theme and three
selections were
used for the same broadcast, the announcer was Mitch
Miller. But the
introduction on stage for the alumni concert and for
Duke's concert
later that day starting with Scratchin' the
Surface (and not
with Princess Blue) the MC was Willis Conover
(John Ephland
should have read Irving Townsend's liner-notes of the
original LP
album to find out about the opening number of the
concert). There are
several possibilities for explaining why we hear Duke
thanking Mitch
Miller, which he actually did during his opening
Take the "A"
Train for the broadcast, and why we do not hear
Mitch Miller
himself. The fact is that track 1 of the double CD
(the introduction
by Willis Conover) was recorded at the start of the
whole concert
with Scratchin' the Surface. The New DESOR is
also wrong in
placing the opening theme on track 2 of the double CD
at the end of
the studio recording of 21Jul58 and giving it the
number 5826i. The
opening theme on both my LPs is also from 3Jul and not
from 21Jul58.
It would not make sense for Duke to thank Mitch Miller
at bar 21, and
that is why on both my LPs the opening theme ends at
bar 16 and
applause is dubbed in. We see on the recording report
of 3Jul58
"(tape from Newport Festival)" as the first selection
Take the "A"
Train with the hand written remark:
Canc Not used.
That is not correct. The theme of the broadcast
recording was used
for both my LPs and for my double CD. The piece is
long enough to
convince me through synchronous comparison.
Another obvious error in the title list on the back of
the double CD
is the claim that Willis Conover introduced Mahalia
Jackson. Willis
introduced Frankie Laine and Frankie introduced
Mahalia. Also, the
claim that Just Scratchin' the Surface, Feetbone,
Prima Bara
Dubla and El Gato were previously unissued
is wrong.
There are more errors in the liner-notes: on page 4
only four trumpet
players are mentioned, and one of them is Francis
"Cootie" Williams.
The real Charles Melvin "Cootie" Williams had not been
in the band
since 1940, and he would not return to it until 1962.
He did however
play with the alumni on the same day at Newport
1958.
On page 6 left column John Ephland made the
condescending remark
about the Ellington scholars who did not know what
they were talking
about when they reviewed Newport 1958 [these scholars
in 1958 were
not aware of the fact that a great part came from the
studio and John
Ephland himself was not aware of the many errors he
made in 1994].
All this criticism is about the liner-notes by John
Ephland for the
double CD. One would expect that Michael Cuscuna in
the new 2007
liner-notes would make the appropriate corrections,
but instead he
makes a few errors of his own. Track 13 of his new
single CD was
previously issued on LP CBS 88653 in 1984 and on CD
Giants of Jazz
53066 in 1990. The confusion about the subtitles of
Multicolored
Blue continues. Multicolored Blue is the
same as Violet
Blue and was composed by Billy Strayhorn. It is a
12 bar blues.
Ultra Blue is the same as Ultra Violet
and the same as
How Blue Can You Get. It was composed by Jimmy
Hamilton and
has the 32 bar structure AABA. It should not be
confused with How
Blue Can You Get, the 12 bar blues composed by
Leonard Feather
and recorded with Chubby Kemp on 21Sep50 (see DEMS
03/1-28,
p1255).
For the release itself, I have only the greatest
praise. It is a real
pleasure to hear the music without the stupid applause
even if that
music is in Mono.
To answer the second question at the start of this
debate, how do we
know that Bill Graham was in the studio on 21Jul58?
Well William H.
Graham is mentioned as sixth saxophone player on the
recording report
of the American Federation of Musicians for the
session on 21Jul58
which ran from 2:30 until 6:30 and resulted in the
recording of 8
selections, numbered from CO 61280 until and including
CO 61287.
It was a good idea to look in Timner's fourth edition.
The personnel
listings of 3 and 21Jul58 are now correct. Only the
one of 18Jul is
wrong. There is no proof of Bill Graham playing in
Stoney Brook that
day. I bet that this will be corrected in the fifth
edition to come
(see DEMS 07/2-3), and that Oscar Pettiford will be
shown as taking
part in that whole concert.
Sjef Hoefsmit
Mosaic Capitol 5 CD box out of
print
DEMS 07/3-22
See DEMS 06/3-31
Your tailpiece to the details of titles released on
Definitive's 4 CD
set of Capitols regretted that 9 had been omitted
since they were
"unique and unissued". In fact, the first 3 listed
appear on
Chronological Classics (1953) and the next 3 on (1953
vol 2).
Presumably, when they get to 1954 CC will issue
Discontented
Blues and Neatwork will issue the alternate
Harlem Air
Shaft.
Ron Malings
You are right, but in our defence we must say that the
1953 vol 2
Chronological Classics had not yet come out at the
time of writing.
Also, we did not say that all, but that almost
all, the
missing selections were unique and unissued. We admit
that we
overlooked CC 1953 vol 1 which was not announced until
the catalogue
of Worlds Records of Nov06. See in this Bulletin
07/3-40/41/42.
DEMS
Cotton Club Stomp of
22Apr30
DEMS 07/3-23
May I add a tailpiece: this recording appeared as
Keep Your
Temper on Hot'n Sweet CD 152242. That was issued
in 1993 and
presumably the renaming followed the announcement in
DEMS Bulletin
83/3-3. May I suggest, in addition, that this
recording should simply
be known as Cotton Club Stomp No. 2 ? It
doesn't seem to be
any other tune!
Ron Malings.
A similar remark was made by Bo Sherman in DEMS
Bulletin 83/4-1. He wrote:
"There are a few errors. I have listened to four
different recordings:
Blue Rhythm Orchestra (c 29oct25, Clarence
Williams(!), VJM VLP-5);
Gulf Coast 7, (5Nov25, Sound of Harlem, Col.
C3L-33);
Gulf Coast 7, Original Jazz Hounds (VJM VLP-45);
Willie "The Lion" Smith - Jo Jones (Jazz Odyssey 006)
and
Ralph Sutton (Chez Jazz CJ-107).
It is not the same composition as the Brunswick
version
Cotton Club Stomp (22Apr30). Both are based on
the same short
melodic figure ("riff") in variations, but the melodic
structure is
different. The Cotton Club Stomp version
includes 32 bars and
"stick" release, contrary to Keep Your Temper
which has 32
bars without a bridge. There are more differences.
The Brunswick 6Jun39 Cotton Club Stomp version
is the
same composition as the Victor 12Apr29 ("A Nite
at the Cotton
Club") and 3May29 versions. You may compare the
Freddie Jenkins
chorus in the Victor versions against the melody
presentation in the
later 1939 version."
The oldest mention of the title Cotton Club
Stomp that we have
been able to trace in discographies was Charles
Delaunay (1948).
After Bo Sherman's contribution, the 22Apr30 recording
was named as
"Unknown Title" or it was made clear in a note that
this was a
different composition.
The wrong title Keep Your Temper originates
from an article by
Jacques Lubin in "Point du Jazz" No 18 (Nov82)
DEMS
Credits for Cotton Club
Stomp
DEMS 07/3-24
See DEMS 07/1-15
Your suggestion that Benny looked on the wrong line
and took the
credits from Shout 'Em, Aunt Tillie. I do not
believe he
consulted the ASCAP listing but that he (as I do for
my forthcoming
The Standard Groove Index), looked at the credits on
the record
labels. There are even three differentcredits for
Cotton Club
Stomp on various labels.
On the labels on my 78 rpm records with the 3May29
recording I found
'Rodgers-Carney-Ellington', which is evidently an
error and should
read 'Hodges-Carney-Ellington'.
On the labels on my 78 rpm records with the 22Apr30
recording I found
(as Benny did) the credits 'Mills-Ellington'. Benny
changed the
sequence into 'Ellington-Mills' and also used these
credits for the
3May29 recording. In the meantime we all know that the
recordings of
3May29 and 22Apr30 are different compositions. I
suggest that the New
DESOR on page 811 accepts these credits for Cotton
Club Stomp
#.
On the labels on my 78 rpm records with the 6Jun39
recording I found
(as Benny did) 'Ellington-Hodges-Mills'. This
recording is again the
same composition as the one from 3May29.
Jerry Valburn
Notes:
The distribution of the recorded selections between
the two different
dates is based on two presumptions: The constant chat
from the
audience on the tape makes us believe that the
portable recording was
made from one single concert. We also believe that the
much more
elaborated version of Tap Dancer's Blues in the
portable
recording as well as the differences in Duke's remarks
in the
introductions to the two versions of Tap Dancer's
Blues
indicate that the portable recording of that selection
is younger
than the version on the CD. In the first concert, we
hear only Duke's
piano in Tap Dancer's Blues. In the second
concert there is
also a simple melody line played by the band.
Tap Dancer's Blues is a well known title.
Listen to the
recording of 18Jul66 on the Fantasy album "Duke
Ellington - The
Pianist". There is no reason to name this selection
Tap
Routine.
We are not sure that the title I Got a Guy is
the correct one.
Alun Morgan wrote in the liner-notes about Take the
"A" Train:
"After a brief version of the tune Ellington brings on
the trumpeter
Cootie Williams to take the featured solo on a longer
version of the
tune, an unusual choice of soloist in some respects.
Cootie plays the
trumpet solo first placed on record 25 years earlier
when Ray Nance
improvised this passage on the earliest studio-made
version of
Take the "A" Train."
We wonder whether this passage was indeed an
improvisation by
Ray Nance in 1941. As far as Cootie Williams is
concerned: Cootie
took over the "solo responsibility" after Ray left in
Sep63. Prior to
the stay at the Greek Theatre, he played the same solo
many times
from which 19 recordings survived, the best known
being the RCA
recording from 9May66, issued on the LP "The Popular
Duke Ellington"
and later on the CD "In the Sixties Duke
Ellington".
On the "cover" of the CD, the credits for all the
musicians are
scrupulously divided into 5 categories. It could be a
matter for
discussion how far we would like to see our
discographers go in this
direction. One could find DESOR being too strict by
excluding every
recording in which Duke himself was not participating.
There are
examples of performances, recorded on video, where we
can see Duke
leaving the stage (probably to smoke a cigarette).
These recordings
are (rightly) not excluded. Why wouldn't we accept the
selections
with Ella, accompanied by the band? We are not even
sure if and when
Duke returned on stage during Ella's "portion." We
only know that he
is replaced on the piano. We accept the recordings
with Billy
Strayhorn when he replaced Duke and that is very wise,
because many
times we simply do not know whether Billy or Duke is
playing. We also
include in the discography the recordings with Jimmy
Jones for the
albums "Jazz Party" in Feb59 and "My People" in
Aug63.
Sjef Hoefsmit
NEW MOSAIC RECORDS WEBSITE
And Russia Is Her
Name
I have recently come across a what
I deem a rare
78rpm record. The label is "AMERICAN HOT WAX". The
configuration of
the label implies that it was made for the Juke Box
market.
On one side (#8) is Take the "A" Train by Duke
Ellington. On
the flip side (#7) is In the Still of the Night
by The Five
Satins.
"A Train" is a live recording by the Ellington
Orchestra with a
fairly long introduction by Duke and then followed by
a solo by Ray
Nance. I am unable to tell from which date this
recording was made.
Have you possibly any knowledge about this record
?
Bo Haufman
I can only confirm its existence,
but I have
never seen a copy. According to Jerry Valburn's files
(which I was
allowedto consult) your statements are correct. I can
only add that
the record was made in England, that it is one of a
series of 15
vinyl records pressed for Juke Box use and that it is
not a master
pressing but a copy. Jerry does not have details of
the recording
other than: unidentified broadcast or concert
performance. If you
send me an audio copy I will be happy to identify the
recording.
Sjef Hoefsmit
Included is a tape with Take
the "A" Train
from the 78rpm American Hot Wax and a photocopy of
the label. I
am very interested to learn from which date this
recording is
emanating. I can find no description in the New DESOR
that fits.
Bo Haufman